Why I'm here:

Discussion in 'TMT - Public' started by Will, Oct 31, 2018.

  1. Will

    Will New Member Typed

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2016
    Posts:
    7
    Thanks Received:
    5
    Hey. I showed up a while ago but I was too young then. According to the system, I’m unsure which type I am. My best guess is MT of some variant, but I've heard differing appraisals. Also, I’m currently on a mission for my church so my posts will be sparse. Regardless, why I’m here in the first place =

    One could make a case that our actions in this moment in history are more consequential to the next 1,000 years than those of anyone born after or before us.
    Civilizations of the past were more liable to crumble and disappear, they had more to fear in the elements. Famine, plague, ignorance and simple mistakes, were all things capable of turning empires into dilapidated ruins. But as progress continues, namely with AI, surveillance, macropsychology, and tech relating to the sustaining of increasingly large groups of people, the potential for societal control by a ruling class and said ruling class’ ability to combat forces which would upend and reset said society altogether, is more potent than ever, and ever increasing. This new empire we see metastasizing across the globe will be made of steel, not stone.
    Even the least paranoid must admit that it’s more possible than ever that mankind at large could end up profoundly, permanently, fucked. If it does, any second wasted in the present will be grieved over for an eternity in the pit of whatever hell we let boil over. We’re in a temporary Goldilocks zone of far reaching, potent, and yet unhindered thought and coordination afforded by an uncensored internet in a culture which values free speech-- two things which are liable to change. Furthermore, the Zeitgeist is currently pouring over the vastness of all philosophy, which is now at it's fingertips, and pining over which truths to believe, which path to take. It will, no doubt, make a decision. Regimes and their ideologies have more staying power than ever, and this decision has the potential to cement the state of things for longer than ever before. In the interest of my future family, I intend to do what I can to ensure the right decision is made, and if it isn’t, I want to have an exit plan, a promised land, and a caravan. 10 points for flow.
    This new phrenology, if legitimate, is enormously important. Firstly in the prediction and modeling of how that future described will unfold and how to operate therein, Secondly in the gathering of all who would come with on the hypothetical exodus, and thirdly in the healing of all those who at the moment are looking for answers they don’t have, or are ‘contented’ with answers that aren’t sufficient or true. Nihilism is a plague. Among the intelligent, the prevailing sentiment of today is nausea and delirium. The loss of any good-hearted person, who thought they were alone and that life was meaningless, is a stain on existence. I want to better understand those prone to benevolence, so I can better help them. Hence why my investigation has brought me here. I can’t seem to find centralized literature on the basics of the science, so expect me to ask dumb questions, for example ‘How can I tell the difference between a M front with deep sockets and a T front with shallow sockets? Some of these Melons look like Thals, and vice versa’.

    I think that may be enough for a writeprint. I’d be thankful to get typed, anyone who has the time can DM me for pics. You could even test yourself and make prediction based on my writing before you see my face. Hmmmmmmmmmm.
     
    • Thank Thank x 3
  2. glosoli

    glosoli Well-Known Member Typed

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2016
    Posts:
    685
    Thanks Received:
    302
    Hello, welcome, from the oldest member of the forum (I think).

    I don't see any progress, I see the world getting worse, and all the items you mention are the opposite of progress. As a Christian, this is to be expected.

    Expect to see some excellent famines in the next 15 years, we're at the beginning of a drought cycle, and potentially at the beginning of a mini ice-age, much like the Maunder Minimum.

    I don't see a new Empire, I just see an old one about to be crushed.
    What follows is likely to be multi-polar, but if the whole world keeps drifting away from Jehovah, we know what will happen, it'll be sorted out.

    Phrenology, well, hard to know where to start, and I was asking the same questions as you but 2 years ago.

    You need to read Tex Arcane's posts on the subject, here's an archived list, with headers that might help you sift and find what you need:

    https://vcrd.fahy.co/

    Or this:

    Vault-Co | https://vault-co.000webhostapp.com/vault-co.blogspot.se/index.html
    (Click on the timestamp link for comments).
     
  3. Will

    Will New Member Typed

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2016
    Posts:
    7
    Thanks Received:
    5
    Thanks for the welcome!

    I’m also a follower of Christ, and we agree on the fact that things are getting worse, I didn’t intone the word ‘progress’ with any positivity, just to describe technological advancement.

    (For clarity, this is all within the context of the far-ish future. Not the next 10 years.)

    For sure, the general public, who’d be the primary victim of a famine, is still quite free to die en masse. Though, with increased automation etc, the collapse of the general public is something that is less likely to lead to the subsequent collapse of the state and ruling elite. I think one could also make a case that the intention of said elite is to, as quickly as possible, become functionally independent of the general populace so that doesn’t happen. In my opinion, the operational advantage of those who are already ahead is a lot larger now than it was a thousand years ago. In the context of revolution, Jacques in Paris was of course less wealthy than his opponent, but a quiet room was a quiet room, no one could listen in— and the will of the public was the authentic will of the public. The surveillance state, coupled with AI psychologists combing over every bite of stolen data— then coupled with the mass manipulation afforded by social media, is a kind of power that no one had before now. If that disparity of power continues to increase, one could hypothetically see whoever who possesses it becoming impossible to upend.

    Barbarians and Ladders vs Romans and Walls =/= Us and the 2nd Amendment vs LizardSquad and WhateverthefuckAlexJoneswastalkingabout.
    My intention isn’t to be defeatist, I’m just saying we have to do what we can, or we’ll be shamefully defeated.

    On empires, I hope you’re right that what we have now is on the way out. It’d be best if it was ensured that whatever comes next, which we can see forming on the fringes, isn’t something evil and to be opposed, and that falls under the responsibility of those living today.

    -

    Aha! That seems like what I’ve been looking for. Thanks for the help ma dude. Will read.
     
  4. Thalmoses

    Thalmoses Founder Administrator

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2016
    Posts:
    2,291
    Thanks Received:
    574
    Welcome. Glad to see you've an eye to history. I agree that physiognomy is important.

    What I've noticed is that Edenism tends to attract people with information overload and executive dysfunction problems. Before we can form a functional group, we must be functional individuals. I've developed a solution for myself, Cyborganize, and am working on the documentation and video demonstration and getting the code releasable.

    In the meantime, I suggest people get themselves solvent, stable, and generally squared away. For personal productivity, I suggest using a sparse paper GTD system as your "primary". Any computerized system will be failure prone unless the designer really knows what he's doing.

    It's all very well to aim for the stars, but most of the work of getting there happens on the ground. Think in 50 year chunks.
     
  5. BiceBiceBice

    BiceBiceBice Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2016
    Posts:
    667
    Thanks Received:
    308
    Well there you go a nice summary, if hierarchy and division of labor will always exist (it will), better not pick a sape to fly the spacetimemachine. The only way to recreate this "experiment" is to observe and see if it fits a pattern (it does) to the point beyond mere chance, don't stare too long at the heads of church (badump-tish) or they might get suspicious of you.

    Biology comes before phrenology, but with ooga boogas planking the heads of their chillums in africa, they are aping the exact same thing which means a powerful social standing amongst humans. Which traits are timeless and which ones are circumstancial? Well you could ask a million questions but you summed it up nicely I think, the basis of it is not difficult to understand at all, really.

    Also there is no good guy eden type if you looking at an entire social structure, that only applies in a ITZ scenario where you eat or get eaten, who is the strongest pound for pound etc, not even america is That bad, but it is fun to speculate.

    watch out for ooga boogas and sapes
     
  6. BiceBiceBice

    BiceBiceBice Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2016
    Posts:
    667
    Thanks Received:
    308
    Information overload and executive dysfunction problems

    Making your own bootleg Chinese-socialborgonizer is very simple, just enter the data into a program that draws the graph for you so you see that it is actually real, most banks have this for free (if your bank does not have this you must be from america). Next step is to cut down on creature comforts for a period of time, I have followed this site since launch Mr. Money Mustache | https://www.mrmoneymustache.com/. You can buy weightscales now for cheap with goddamned wifi telling you if you are increasing your muscle mass dropping fat water levels etc, training journals function the same way as the bank graphs and are free too, do that too, combine the two if you are savvy and then you get a bootleg Chingchong-Alexa beating the goobernment to the punch.

    Now you have money and muscle, if you want credit "buy" a loan and pay it off in 3-6 months, get the next level loan and repeat, if you live in a shyster country you can write off the loss when you do smaxes, use this built up credit for after the markets crash then buy everything for pennies on the dollar and pay off the loan instantly just sell some of the stock not all of it. You are now a well respected elite person in society.
    If you want to become the ultra elite, start a warehouse and then blackmail the government into giving you gibs because your warehouse creats JOBS (they government won't say no to this), fuck it if the company makes a loss your job is to put all the WINNINGS onto your own account. Then crash the company with no survivors.

    Now you have so much money because of siphoning that you are the government and you are so 1337 that autistic people will make conspiracy documentaries about you on youtube. How far you want to go is up to you but remember you only get to heaven through Jesus Christ.

    Another fun fact is that the NEETs of today live on a par with kings of history. This is the way of the Nobilid regards Nobilid.
     
    • Nobilid Nobilid x 2
    • Funny Funny x 1
  7. Will

    Will New Member Typed

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2016
    Posts:
    7
    Thanks Received:
    5
    Scheduled manic raving is a fun way to orient, especially when one's to-do list is feeling pointless/endless.
    But point taken, I figure I'd actually need a to-do list in the first place in order say what I just said-- so as of the last five minutes, I do.
    Maybe I'm not beyond reproach if the first item is 'be White-Genghis and save the world 100% forever', with 'take out the trash' following in second. But progress is progress.

    The heads of my church do have pretty weird heads.

    Ooga booga headbinding reminds me of a convo I'm having with Kensuimo about the mechanism by which headshape actually affects behaviour-- I'm pretty sure if I skullslammed my desk enough times to make my forehead more slanted, I'd be pretty psychologically different, but is the inverse true? 'Do you guys think the size and shape of the different lobes has a direct neurocircuitry type affect on behavior, or is it more that Ancestry + Hormones + ETC = Head Shape & Behavior-- the latter two (Head Shape, Behavior) being useful in deducing things about the other, not because they're directly causally linked but because their character points back to the former things (Ancestry, Hormones, ETC) which caused them both?'

    No good guys? Why does everything always have to be so complicated! I just want niceboi colony.

    You and your moneymoustache mister say there's a way to live comfortably without lifelong 9/5 blood sacrifice-- is this too good to be true? Man if it isn't, I finally have something to tell the world about.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  8. BiceBiceBice

    BiceBiceBice Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2016
    Posts:
    667
    Thanks Received:
    308
    Some things just need to be automated. Lets just say for no reason in particular that a person is brilliant once or in some things constantly, the best course of action is to try and extract that so the rest of that persons inner workings can not sabotage it, that's how you end up crying in a limousine instead of under it.
    The first thing I do when I wake up is "eat my breakfast" (lick crushed rocks to obtain my minerals), do my word-lists, then do my first workout for the day. The most fast and simple way to get on top of the day, it benefits me and the other benefit is it increases my social standing aka I am in this society a better person than you -according to current held sapient beliefs. A side effect of what I want to do for myself. If you are melonish you just monetize yourself into a role model and make a living off it.
    With age, which is a problem for thalish people because slow rate of maturity, this is a problem because you might condition yourself for 40 years into sitting on you ass and feeling 100% fine because you do, and then you turn into an adult. There is always work to be done and if you had good parents they will set you with the concept of a routine. If you didn't have, and school does not exist with those values in mind, and the priests just diddle instead, well then you have to turn to the internet for advice and see how others manage such a very simple thing. With 20 years development time for Grimoire, don't hold your breath for Koanics borgonizer. Or do, and use something else in the meantime. Pen and Paper is just a classic.

    I don't have anything "funny" to say regarding white-genghis except that there have never been this many white people on this planet at the same time ever, that shitlib birthrates are below replacement and conservative ones are increasing with freak rates especially amongst the amish and similiar groups. Don't bother about that stuff itz not real. If you want to be white-genghis go to a sperm bank and donate.

    Interesting. Groids and whiteoid wahmen call themselves blonde when they dye their hair, but at heart they are still miserable-ish and don't encapsule that stereotype forever (just have more fun in general in everything), they did not turn into happy-go-lucky pippi longstocking, but they gain higher social standing because the rest of the wahmens do the same, the color of the haircolor doesn't matter technically itz the practice. Banging your head against the wall is a legit practice if Balmers Peak is a legit practice, however you will not excel in everything, you upgrayde some parts and downgrade the rest.
    Natural born personal characteristics are definitely sprung out of genetics aka Edenism, some people want to serve and some want to be served upon, a thard might find this hiearchy offensive and disrupt it, such as freeing all the labor ants from doing labor, killing off the entire colony.
    This warrants a longer response.


    These don't officially exist. Keeping people out is the highest value possible on this planet except for God and all That good stuff.



    The lowest in society have everything in common with the highest, they both live off the labor of the middle class. This is such a big question that it will always be open ended and never finished (just like Edenism). Example: If you don't want foreigners in your country, you now just saved 20dolleridoos everyday in taco expense and put instead only 5$ a day (after shopping around for the best price maybe aligning with your only 1 workout-meal per day), taking action over something yourself instead of being served upon (at the cost of your entire society in the long run because you are a baby relying on highpriced goylent served by ooga boogas). Another example is that you could not pay an autisté money to have any maid of any race clean his room. and move around his figurines... the only way to coax him into it happening at all is ¨time+dust=fire=no figurines", now he will do it at the bare minimum.

    You just start to work for yourself basically, with a lot of benefits aka the ripple effect rupturing the practice of parasites. Altruism is the best form of egoism. Buy land. And unless you are unironically working on, as in right now, the spacetimerocketmachine, nobody really needs your redpills so don't worry about that stuff.

    TLDR: I don't really have anything new to say so i'll quote you again;
    I don't think that you are a crom so don't go to prison or join the army grunts. Also, don't worry about those croms that go to prison or join the grunts. Donald Trump can not be a thal and would not like living like one. The ultimate application of Edenism is just career paths inside and outside of work.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  9. BiceBiceBice

    BiceBiceBice Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2016
    Posts:
    667
    Thanks Received:
    308
    I'll just quickly add that this is a "living" calendar, the japanese borgonizer, if you don't like miss "western" (((Alexa Iris))). A problem with jumping the gun for the lulz is not going back and re-evaluating cringey-blackpilled-shock humor. Just get the Prophet Mohammad DLC and have it shout at you in 500 decebels in broken arabic. Will really wake you up in the morning and get you going with your to-do pile. If you don't do your shit, just give it electricity access and have it cut off your access to the electric grid. Horrible!

    Mush!
    [​IMG]


     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  10. Will

    Will New Member Typed

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2016
    Posts:
    7
    Thanks Received:
    5
    -

    Advice much appreciated. I agree that I could do more than I currently am. Squandering gifts is a profound insult to who gave them. Coming here is part of my effort to reconnect with the deep-thinky side after the few years Highschool drama kept my brain captive.

    Know though that I’m doing more than one might guess despite my self-satire. Of which the Genghis comment is a prime example— I wouldn’t put the burden of raising a little-me on anyone but myself. It wouldn’t go well.

    -

    Honestly this topic is way too complex, and it seems the shorter the answer, the less correct it’d be. I’m currently rethinking the objection I had which led to that question in the first place.

    -

    So if you want to add a new room to your house, you have the choice of building it yourself or putting that same effort into working under someone else in order to have the $ to have beanboi do it for you. Even if the net effort is the same, though it might not be, the side effects are profoundly more positive with the former choice (self reliance, better for community, better health). And TV is always a waste of money, no matter what.

    -

    I have no compassion for the immoral. I remember reading somewhere on here that Thals have a high suicide rate-- that’s who I’m worrying about.


    Nope on crom— I figure I’ll give stats so everyone knows who they’re talking to:

    With consultation from many sources:

    BigEye, UpwardNose, GoodTest, FT. In late teens. Lanky but gains/loses weight easily. Not fully ecto, not fully meso, not fully endo.

    Tentative LilOcc, Tentative LilBackswept (typed as Backswept MT a few years ago), Tentative LilTemp (My biological dad looks like Thal-Gingrich) .

    Also sorta chinky looking upper-lidding, despite being white and slightly jewy. Dunno whether that means VerticalScrunch.

    Myers Briggs during youth always output INTP, but since then every letter besides ‘N’ has changed, changed back, etc.

    Every metric not listed falls under ‘average’.


    Dunno if all that leads to having the psychology of a living Picasso painting, or just a ‘normie’ on adderall.

    I’m fortunate to have irl waifu to nag me into being upright— though the intensity of the NAGGING one gets from a German MT is really something.
     
  11. Thalmoses

    Thalmoses Founder Administrator

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2016
    Posts:
    2,291
    Thanks Received:
    574
    > With 20 years development time for Grimoire, don't hold your breath for Koanics borgonizer.

    Hey, my code is already released on Github. And it is Accutane damage, not perfectionism, slowing the documentation release.
     
  12. BiceBiceBice

    BiceBiceBice Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2016
    Posts:
    667
    Thanks Received:
    308
    "
    (From The Prometheus Society’s Journal, Gift of Fire Issue No. 22, April 1987. This article was re-issued in Issue 72, March 95.)

    His name was William James Sidis, and his IQ was estimated at between 250 and 300 [8, p. 283]. At eighteen months he could read The New York Times, at two he taught himself Latin, at three he learned Greek. By the time he was an adult he could speak more than forty languages and dialects. He gained entrance to Harvard at eleven, and gave a lecture on four-dimensional bodies to the Harvard Mathematical Club his first year. He graduated cum laude at sixteen, and became the youngest professor in history. He deduced the possibility of black holes more than twenty years before Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar published An Introduction to the Study of Stellar Structure. His life held possibilities for achievement that few people can imagine. Of all the prodigies for which there are records, his was probably the most powerful intellect of all. And yet it all came to nothing. He soon gave up his position as a professor, and for the rest of his life wandered from one menial job to another. His experiences as a child prodigy had proven so painful that he decided for the rest of his life to shun public exposure at all costs. Henceforth, he denied his gifts, refused to think about mathematics, and above all refused to perform as he had been made to do as a child. Instead, he devoted his intellect almost exclusively to the collection of streetcar transfers, and to the study of the history of his native Boston. He worked hard at becoming a normal human being, but never entirely succeeded. He found the concept of beauty, for example, to be completely incomprehensible, and the idea of sex repelled him. At fifteen he took a vow of celibacy, which he apparently kept for the remainder of his life, dying a virgin at the age of 46. He wore a vest summer and winter, and never learned to bathe regularly. A comment that Aldous Huxley once made about Sir Isaac Newton might equally have been said of Sidis.

    For the price Newton had to pay for being a supreme intellect was that he was incapable of friendship, love, fatherhood, and many other desirable things. As a man he was a failure; as a monster he was superb [5, p. 2222].
    "

    The problem with social engineering is that it works for as long as it is enforced, and it ends as abrutply as, well, as soon as you pull the power plug. If someone is born with 300 IQ, he is born with stage 10 terminal cancer (inb4 photographic memory and "deducing possibilies = theory = out of africa is not real intelligence (I agree) ). Should not then the borgonizer aim for the exact same thing from two different spectrums, at the same time? Gradually is how you you can literally breed 18 year old girls into producing a high T person within 50 years, possible 1x%.
    Someone born with 57 IQ (h/t africa), that sould be an emergency, but they don't kill themselves as someone born with soooper genious IQ.

    My impression is that this is a social borgonizer whereas Tex's is running a parkingmeter on steroid-DOS for 300 years because the ITZ.
     

Share This Page