Par occ dualback - sum over their captured states from 1 to n

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  1. Kensuimo

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    Niall Ferguson, hooknose historian.

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    Edit: 5:03 appears to show backcone sans occ. Move at will.
     
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    I made some morphs almost a year-and-a-half ago asking what a dualback was supposed to look like, and I think these templates should provide some guidance as to what to look for:

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    The thread where I originally posted these on Altrugenics 1.0:

    What is a Dualback supposed to look like? - Altrugenics | https://www.phpbb.altrugenics.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=123

    I don't think the guy you posted has a skull that is back-heavy enough to be dualback M+T.

    I think this guy Polymath posted, economist Finn Kydland, is a legit M+T dualback.

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    I would be seriously astonished if I saw a head shape like that in public.
     
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    Zoom in on the first image. He's backswept + occ. Not as massive as the White House guy, obviously.

    An example of a conehead dualback would be Adam Silver, NBA commissioner.

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    The guy in the background:

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    Incidentally, Finn Kydland has temporals, so he's technically tripleback.

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    And his par is backswept, like Ferguson's.
     
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    I see backswept in the first image (relatively enlongated roof of the skull), but not occ, or at least not enough of an occ to qualify as "occ" without the backswept. I think similarly about Silver, although I think his occ is bigger than Ferguson's relative to total skull size.
     
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    I think the first image holds up, but since public threads are supposed to consist of clear-cut examples, I'll remove Niall pending further feedback.

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    Picasso looks like he could be a dualback. Here's another profile:

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    Remember that lens distort worsens at the borders, exaggerating lobular prominence.
     
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    what is a captured state in this context? i want to understand the implied joke in the title.

    roy keane is podrags ur example of dualback
     
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    Pic for completeness.

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    Frankly he's pushing tripleback.

    Re the title: catch them all -> transition from uncaptured to captured state. Summing over all such states means catching them all. I've been reading physics recently, and dualbacks' combination of par iterative deduction and occ framework fondness seemed to make this thread a good spot for such a joke.
     
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    Agree re: pushing tripleback.
     
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    Roy Keane is definitely en bombe and broad-headed, so I guess that counts as S-back.

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    He also has a more back heavy skull than most people, but I don't think there's enough there for M+T back as well.

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    Compare to Kydland, who has much more (relative) rear cranial mass in profile:

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    Just to clarify, I'm not really disagreeing with you guys, since I also think Keane is a near tripleback. I was just clarifying that I think he's S+t+m/x (lower case letters t and m specifying not full M- or T-back designation).
     
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    Kydland's photo there appears to be affected by lens distort.
     
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    Liquid Nairo, pro Smash player.

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    Widespace upwardnose (T/M)T.
     
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    Senior Trump advisor Stephen Miller seems to fit the dualback profile, simultaneously displaying a parietal backcone and a highly-set occipital.

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    Incidentally, many people around the web both pro and anti-Trump have compared Miller to Joseph Goebbels, though Miller displays more lobular mass up front, a higher cranial vault, and a generally more progressive look overall (as well as the differences in the back, of course).

    That being said, there are indeed a few noteworthy similarities between the two: namely, both are gracile, sharply-dressed, Mediterranean ectomorphs with a talent for public speaking who serve as the warm-up man for the charismatic leader of a populist political movement (though Trumpian Republicanism is obviously a far, far cry from Naziism).

    Pictures of Miller in profile are hard to come by even with his recent fame/notoriety, which I believe is due to the fact that he almost never moves or swivels his head when he speaks. In fact, his facial features barely change expression at all when he talks, aside from his mouth. It's all very deliberate when he takes the podium, which should be attributable to his downward-pointing nose.

    I've read a similar story about Tom Brady, who I believe Koanic previously typed as an MT. He wouldn't practice all day long, but would devote a set number of hours every day to do nothing but practice his throwing motion with an assistant at various distances, trajectories, and velocities; along with his diet, he adheres to this schedule extremely rigorously every day, in any and all conditions and circumstances (unsurprising, considering he just won his fifth Superbowl at the age of 39). #JustThalThings

    Edit: After re-checking the MT thread, looks like you typed Brady as MT as well.
     
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    Mass at that level is called fauxcippital and is sort of an occ/par hybrid. See First attempt to describe Koanic’s Mohawk theory | https://aeolipera.wordpress.com/2016/09/15/first-attempt-to-describe-koanics-mohawk-theory/.

    Goebbels, incidentally, was FT. This supports your comparison.

    Downwardnose and hooknose are similar in that both induce deliberateness, but downward is theorized by Koanic to result in "clean" exploitation, whereas hook results in "slimey". Detailed explanation pending.

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    Heavily lidded eyes. This is known to be a non-altruistic feature- I believe Aeoli has tenatively linked it to sadism.
     
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    Justin Trudeau.

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    Not a rock solid case.

    Par + hooknose + chinproj + family connections -> will to power. Prettyboy + fauxc + wideishspace
    -> liberalism vulnerability.

    Sockets, asymm.

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    Son of Castro, whitened for Cuckada.
     
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    Trudeau probably isn't a dualback. He's got a lot of voluminous, wavy hair that makes a good read difficult. I might hazard a guess that he's leaning toward dualback when compared with a normal person; basically t+m back (lower case letters specifying neither full T-back or M-back).
     

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