MT - catch them all - sidebar discussion

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  1. Aeoli Pera

    Aeoli Pera Admin Staff Member

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    Very interesting look, it's too bad about the hair.
     
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    Kensuimo Well-Known Member Typed

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    Mega lulz, but sidebar next time please.

    Also, downwardnose-> gender polarization (air meridians).
     
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    Sonny "Skrillex" Moore, DJ. Probably hooknose. Backswept, chinproj. He has a small maxilla, which is typically an indicator for temporals, but I found no conclusive photo.

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    Anyone here familliar with the Hapsburg chin and its lineage?
     
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    Bruh...you lowslung occ as sheeeiiit. Happy dualbackin'.
     
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  6. Aeoli Pera

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    ken, would you do me a favor and get caelum some links explaining aspiepath chin?
     
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    ophiuchus, youre going to enjoy my description of backswept parietal, whenever i get around to that.
     
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    Oscar "Ozzy" Lusth. MT, vertical scrunch, biggish eye (maybe?)

    survivor contestant, significantly better than most at all the challenges, never won because he doesn't play using manipulation. extremely calm. Watch the first few minutes of this tribal council. The guy in the back middle makes up a complete B.S. story about him to turn the tribe against Ozzy and Ozzy reacts in total MT fashion (at least how I understand it)
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  9. Kensuimo

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    Upwardnose widespace too. Might even be fauxcippital dualback.

    Also, lol, having to watch a melon backpedal in realtime.
     
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  10. Ophiuchus

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    The Habsburg chin is one particularly famous example of the deleterious recessive traits that tend to start showing up in people who practice continuous inbreeding over successive generations. Wikipedia gives a pretty good overview of how these traits manifest here. Basically, reproducing with someone as genetically close to you as, say, your sister greatly increases the likelihood of a condition called homozygosity in the child, which increases the likelihood that he/she will express recessive genetic traits, which are often deleterious (i.e. genetic diseases like hemophilia, weird physical deformities like the cleft lip and lazy eye, and even stuff like immune system disorders. The Habsburg chin is one such trait).

    On the trait itself, from this article:

    So apparently it originated in Poland, though I think the Habsburg family's overall influence/presence in that region was relatively minor. Looking at the portraits, the branch of the Habsburg Dynasty that exhibits the Habsburg Jaw the strongest is definitely the Spanish branch, in which you can watch the jaw get progressively more pronounced with each successive generation; you can look at their family tree here.

    That whole Spanish branch is pretty physiognomically interesting--former Spanish king Juan Carlos is a distant heir of the Habsburg Dynasty, and he's what we would consider a good example of an arch-melon (he also looks considerably less strange than his Habsburg ancestors from the 1700s/1800s, which is true for modern day Habsburg descendants in general). Though I actually found that the main Austrian line (Holy Roman Emperors and a few of its minor offshoots) were even more interesting to look at than the Spanish branch. They do of course exhibit the Habsburg chin, but their "signature" appearance is what I can really only describe as a certain "fish-facedness" that really begins to appear around the late 1600s to early 1700s. Oannes aka Dagon did come from the bottom of the sea, I suppose! Anyway--Behold:

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    It's a physical appearance that, overall, reminds me of this dude:

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    So! I would definitely say that the Habsburgs trend in the melonhead direction. The characteristic chin originates in Poland and can be observed in most of the major Habsburg branches, and most especially the Spanish branch. I seem to recall you saying in another thread that you were descended from them, though I'm afraid I can't help you much with regards to finding out which exact branch/line you're descended from. Does your family have any records?


    Also @Aeoli Pera I think the Habsburg chin is a distinct trait from the aspiepath chin in that the Habsburg chin is a recessive genetic trait brought out by inbreeding while the aspiepath chin seems to pop up randomly, and doesn't appear to include the other stuff like the enlarged lower lip, swollen tongue; etc. Aspiepath chin on the other hand seems related to early childhood malnutrition or somesuch. Habsburg chin = nature (or lack thereof); Aspiepath chin = nurture (or lack thereof).
     
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  11. Aeoli Pera

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    A bit of free association to indicate where my head is at lately: Dinosaurs = birds, Leviathan, fish people, dragons, phoenixes, lightbringers, birdmen, scylla and charybdis, Satanism vs. Luciferianism, Dagon, "that Innsmouth look". In short, I think Lovecraft (and Homer) was channeling something real and important through dream logic.
     
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  13. Ophiuchus

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    Looking over the Habsburg family tree got me interested in the physiognomic traits of the other major royal European houses. Let's start with House Bourbon, an old-as-fuck dynasty dating from 1268 and most commonly associated with France, the blue and gold fleur-de-lis, and the type of whiskey whose name ultimately derives from them. Earlier I mentioned arch-melon Juan Carlos of Spain being a Habsburg descendant. While this is technically true, he is actually a member of House Bourbon, as is (obviously) his successor Felipe VI.

    House Bourbon is actually still technically in charge of both Spain and the tiny-but-fuckdiculously-wealthy-in-relative-terms Grand Duchy of Luxembourg. Despite being periodically BTFO'd over the years by liberal revolutionaries, freemasons, and other assorted Godless troublemakers, House Bourbon in many ways can be considered to have "won" the IRL thousand-year-long game of thrones (in that they still retain sovereignty over multiple countries and get to hang out and screw models and do coke on their yacht or whatever while we have to live the #workcellifestyle. #whodareswins, I suppose).

    Anyway, let's take a look at their historical phrenology.

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    Mmm, yes, some very nice specimens here. Lots of aerodynamic facial shapes, large expressive eyes set behind the teeth, long noses... most of them being very luxuriantly Frenchoid to boot. Henry IV is looking like a smug Pepe down there in the bottom left, if only he could see what has become of his once great, now "enlightened" nation. Overall, several good examples of arch-melon frontals I'd say, and--

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    "Bring me the head of Texas Arcane!"

    Itz like Stewie Griffin, but real! That young man is luxuriantly Boskopoid to the maximum, though at least some of the effect may be created by his hair (his eyebrows appear to be roughly the same color of his cranium). That only looks like a drum next to him; it's actually a nuclear reactor core. Berry berry interdasting.

    Let's look at his bio:

    So he ran away from Napoleon off to monkeyland, fucked his cousin, and got sick and died. Pretty underwhelming.

    Overall though, conclusion on House Bourbon: they have more of an "arch-melon" look, while the Habsburgs have the "Innsmouth" appearance, though there is significant overlap between the two families both appearance-wise and genetics-wise, as they intermarried frequently throughout history.
     
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  14. Kensuimo

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    I expect a post on fish melons within the week.
     
  15. Aeoli Pera

    Aeoli Pera Admin Staff Member

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    There is no depth of nonsensical granularity we cannot achieve. Heil Kek, heil Cthulu. *Salutes*
     
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    You can't spell "nonsensical granularity" without "Catholicism". We briefly touched on Papal phrenology in this thread, now let's talk about Papal clothing and the contextual and historical symbology associated with il Vaticano.

    From this excellent post, which is so relevant to the line of thought in this thread that I'll just be effectively reposting the whole thing:

     
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    It continues:

    The Nommos were part fish and part man and could live on both land and in the sea. They are also referred to as “Masters of the Water”, “the Monitors”, and “the Teachers”.

    Didn't Owl consider Melons in general to be "Atlanteans" (and considered Thals "Hyperboreans")?

    Anyway,

    The whole Babylonian story about "half-human half-fish" Dagon coming out of the sea every day to teach humans scienmagistry and whatnot strikes me as being pretty suspicious. I'm just picturing Melon McMelonson saying "WHELP, THAT'S THAT, LOOK AT THE TIME, GOTTA GO BACK TO MY MAGICAL AQUATIC REALM™" while fumbling with his regulator and jumping back into the ocean.

    Also, Tex has speculated before about dolphins and belugas actually being domesticated animals given their behavior, and it really doesn't seem so outrageous once you watch them interact with humans for a bit:







    In short, I think you're probably right.

    So @Kensuimo calling certain types of melons "fish melons" may actually be redundant.

    At any rate, pointless granularity has been achieved.
     
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  18. Ophiuchus

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    Also @Thalmoses

    I don't really know as of right now, I think a larger sample size is probably necessary before making a judgement as to what the trait conveys. It's also a pretty hard trait to notice given that most people have hair/tissue/fat obscuring the underside of their occipital bone. Aaron Burr was nothing if not pugnacious, though.

    Edit: @Aeoli Pera An incidental side note on Tuthmosis IV/Thutmose IV: his Dream Stele serves as a textbook real-world example of the Behelit Myth in action:

     
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  19. Aeoli Pera

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    @Ophiuchus Someone hazily floated the idea that Mars used to be oceanic and housed the melons. They fucked it up and had to flee to earth. I think an implication here was that they were aquatic. Certainly explains Aeoli's melon seafarer thing.
     
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