Listen: most of the internet is one big psy-op

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  1. Albatross

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    This is a complex idea. But yes, it is absolutely true. I hope you understand i can't totally explain how i know this.

    it doesn't even matter if they are on your side ideologically or not. i know that's hard to swallow. there are plenty of good website out there that are connected to this sector of the internet (vault-co is an obvious one). Here's one important thing to keep in mind: it is less important to pay attention to the exact data being presented as much as the way it is being presented. ironically, some psy-ops can actually work for good. your subconscious can be programmed in any particular way so it goes tto reason that this can work for or against the actual cause. this is, in my opinion (and it does get fairly more complex than any one individual can ascertain), has to do with the means/ends of the particular source. it also has to do with the individual power structure of that source and how it is in effect "at war" with other sources (lol "infowars" right? this is even more deep than that and i think aeoli pera posted something like this once about "loosh?" well, i'd have to write a whole side note about this but essentially the entire complex network of consciousness creates sub and bi-layers of influence).

    mostly, people are just selfish. money rules the game in general. but beyond that are vested interests which are closeted (and again, it's important you know it's NOT NECESSARILY ALWAYS just people who are/aren't on your immediate :;side").

    okay so what am i going on about. what's the point>?

    first off: you have one huge advantage: you can read people's profiles and from that infer all kinds of data just based on their skull. secondly, you should make it a point to go BEYOND pure data. enter the realm of...psychological keenness. know the goal, and explore every possible outcome. what aids you? what hinders you? where are the potential outlets for breaking through into the physical world and garnering public opinion? i mean, so much stuff is just pure convolution because you can put one person on one side just to make that side look bad. thre are more angles to this thing than you or anyone can conceive of at any time. for this, this is especially frustrating because i put a lot of time into exploring the internet. in the end, it has to come to my own direct sense of judgment and temporary conception of how reality will bend and swerve over time to accommodate all facets of truth and fiction.

    i'll post more about this later but always beware: with great power comes great responsibility, as they say. know thyself...that is the greatest virtue.
     
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  2. Moonpony

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    I don't think you have a clear point sorry
     
  3. Albatross

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    while i'm thinking about it, why was koanic's blog taken off the net? i wasn't around for it when it happened.
     
  4. Thalmoses

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    My Wordpress blog wasn't accurate, easily correctable, or conveniently version controllable.

    This allowed people to contemptuously dismiss me and impugn ya'll for just causes, which I found unacceptable.

    The mature Cyborganize is able to rapidly organize, update and publish information. For example, I just pulled together 8 years of scattered failed personal journaling systems, no sweat.

    So yeah, I'm getting closer to publishing again. The Wordpress blog was mostly an outlet because I lacked the organizational ability to develop my thoughts privately. I needed the assistance and stimulus of audience feedback to help organize my raw thoughts. Now I don't, so I can wait and deliver more polished work.
     
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  5. jsl

    jsl Well-Known Member Baron

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    i think i kind of grok it.
    meaning in chaos.
    visuospatial grasp of potential future timelines swirling, crisscrossing, worming.
    unavoidable opportunity cost of making decisions as a 3D organism trapped in linear time. one timeline is chosen, other previously possible ones fall to the wayside. falling away even beyond the reach of hindsight.
    faced with all this uncertainty, people adapt by generalizing, predicting the future according to past patterns.
    in this context, skullreading is a powerful tool because it exposes patterns in the confusing melting pot of dozens of phrenotypes and their subtypes competing for resources based on their pet strategies.
    and still, Know Thyself is important because one tends to look for specific sorts of patterns depending on one's true self. one is predisposed to depict reality and human events and storylines in a certain preferred way. even the meta-recognition of this tendency is an ability that is available to some gene groups, and beyond the reach of others.

    and as for the statement, "most of the Internet is one big psy-op,"
    you stay on the Internet long enough and you wonder whether you really saw beyond the veil, or whether you were just allowed to see what you (your Type) wanted to see.
    "it was the best of times. it was the worst of times." depending on whether you're in the right Club, you can even turn a handsome profit while other groups are suffering.
    ..."i'm not even sure who's Jewing who anymore." and this is the only possible way for ((their)) Game to work. confuse everyone. make sure there's never enough people to figure out who the real ((enemy)) is. and furthermore, disguise ((yourself)) as a dozen seemingly different factions.
    speaking as an Autist, it is tempting to think "/pol/ is always right" can never be wrong.
    and as an Edenist, it is tempting to believe that something more purity-spiralled than /pol/ must automatically be Even Righter.
    but i think any Autist worth his salt knows: if everything seems to make sense, something is wrong. if it's not my perception of Reality that's wrong, then maybe it's the conclusions i draw from my perception of Reality.

    aside:
    i think multiple Types placed in close proximity i.e. ((immigration white papers)) makes it easier for the ((Cathedral)) to push the line that Everything is Relative. whereas, when countries remain genetically homogenous, then the population's values and perceptions of reality tends to crystallize along shared (i.e. biomorally-predisposed) lines.

    /speculation
     
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  6. Adam

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    What you say is interesting but you should explain more.
     
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  7. Aeoli Pera

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    This is the basic idea.

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  8. Thalmoses

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    This comic is false. As Earth's ruler, the accusatory instigator, and actual agent of harm, Satan perpetrated Job's suffering. Jehovah merely relaxed his protection, thereby giving Job a trial by which he might win greater honor, and also winning a moral victory in the contest of legitimacy between Heaven and Satan.

    Secondly, Western techno-wealth is no bulwark against the wrath of GNON, as this arrogant idiot of an artist will soon discover. Scaling up hubris merely correspondingly scales destruction.
     
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  9. Albatross

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    Wow, i just wanna say thanks for all the quick posts so far. i am definitely going to expand on this some more because the subject is literally haunting my every action. i have a certain level of heightened awareness (for reasons i can't go into unfortunately) that delves into the notion of shared consciousnesses. i wouldn't call it strictly shamanism it's just like connecting trends to intuition and spinning different complexities in and out of the web of time as it gradually hones in on itself (creating reality as it manifests). and lately i started getting this feeling, which could in a way just be me projecting out of some need to conceptualize a future/reality which molds to my worldview, that there is a collective enterprise towards some kind of base organizative ideological structure...a lot of it has to do with control over the infinite potential outcomes of the will, as outlined above, it also has to do with managing popular opinion to keep a certain discourse going on while maintaining at which time beliefs may change at a larger scale. and there is some kind of a goal which i am struggling to outline--perhaps not for my lack of analytical ability but for its overall abstractness. if i was dealing with something more definite then i would just call it predictive psychology but this is more theoretical (though theoretical is a word which is demeaning to this subject. i wouldn't really know how to use a better word though. projecting? imagining? calculating?). but anyway, point is most of my consciousness is rooted in the meta-physical and i tend to focus more on what is IMPLIED than what is actually SAID--kinda in a cause/effect way.

    gonna keep thinking about this for a while.
     
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  10. Albatross

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    i'm also writing this short book about how the fundamental basis of human psychology has its roots in needless misunderstanding you guys will like it.
     
  11. Apercus

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    The reason why the Pentagon released the internet for public consumption and launched the "Eternal September" is because they knew it would lead to, as they call it, "consensus reality reinforcement".

    Because the Internet recapitulates all past forms of media, it turns the world into a museum. However, it turns the world into a consensus-reality virtual museum, which the Pentagon needs in order to cement its false history in the minds of future generations.

    They sincerely believe that "he who controls the present, controls the past." Psywarriors started doing "meme magic" long before /x/ and /pol/ caught on.
     
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  12. Albatross

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    yeah. exactly. some of the more easily graspable concepts i came up with just now:

    consolidation of opinion/belief, making things "definite." phasing into utility over idealisticness/fantasy. governing sense of purpose and molding it into a consensus worldview. governing our way of perceiving a certain thing as evil and another thing as innocuous (this is commonplace in mindcontrol where the media chooses to report one thing and not another). preventing overall proliferation of facts which are extremely important/revolutionary breakthroughs to reduce them to mere "novelty bits."

    what i think is also very important is that there is still so much red tape and seperation between figures of leadership and the people when the internet exists. there should be so much more here than there currently is in terms of having a fluid global/national conversation.
     
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    Albatross' writeprint is quite xM, probablyTM.
     
  14. Albatross

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    quite right.

    and yeah i ought to mention the meme mind is definitely operating way higher than the general stream of consciousness. the lack of proliferation (except through dying off) sends strong signals that there is inherent evil/dogmatism enforced by the generation holding the most power atm.

    though, this is obvious.
     
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  15. Albatross

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    Attention
    Unbelievers
    Fashion Victims
    Opportunists
    Blood sport
    Cop killer
    Don't trust art
    Don't trust culture
    Cancel your thoughts out forever
    Milk it and strain it to residue
    An insult that dilates forever
    Passing from history that's made from arrangements
    Of cordons and tannoys in symmetry
    That cancel forever
    Forever
    A curse on your houses
    Rivers run with your sons' blood
    No case for extenuation
    All the marshals are dead
    Cancel your thoughts out forever
    Milk it and strain it to residue
    An insult that dilates forever
    Passing from history that's made from arrangements
    Of cordons and tannoys in symmetry
    That cancel forever
    Spring breaks in ranks and in boulevards
    A country that grows us
    But cannot contain us
     
  16. Albatross

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    oh i got it. it's like a fetishization of what your opinions are. i can see it, screaming out at me when i look at the Youtube side bars and how everything is so anatogizing and trying to really "pierce the center" of the mainstream dialect of what have you but all it really is is a smokescreen from what you're suppopsed to be digesting in terms of actual useful content.

    and then, there's like this real nagging feeling i have that our beliefs are being encapsulated rather than expanded. there's no better way to describe it--there is some kind of egalitarian complex going on that keeps good ideas from expanding so that we can come off looking "demoncratic" when no one really wants that except the people who want to be more than their opinion is really worth. like, we (i see this is many other forums) want to put forward some kind of image that has to do with a mutual bond even in the sense of disagreement. this is placating, however, and so we go back to ourselves or our closer peer ground and refortify our beliefs. this is not as much a bad thing, though, as the attention-grabbing content that exists only to further discussions rather than further process to create ANSWERS to what these discussions SHOULD BE CENTERED ON.

    this is more convoluted than it even now seems. but i forgot what i was thinking in this post just now and can't finish cuz my brain is too mashed up.

    will update this post if brain decides to work again.
     
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  17. jsl

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    you've probably seen this before:
    [​IMG]

    curbstomp your opponent in an online ((debate)) and tomorrow nothing seems to have changed. normies don't know it ever happened. they continue watching and semi-believing in the fake news media with what they think is a healthy level of skepticism, except maybe they don't know that even this skepticism is not enough, because the entire context of what they are shown is ((compromised)). their context remains locked into the inertial momentum of the ((mainstream)) consensus on What The Hell is Going On and What Should Be Done About It.
    it's like a demonic sort of Antifragility.
    and this Antifragile monolith in its entirety seems to take on a sort of sentience.
    it reminds of Koanic's blogpost from years ago, which said that ((society)) zoomed out is basically a gigantic cockroach. a compound organism. a captive hivemind that is being fed sanitized inputs, immobilized in chains of info-denial.
    it reminds me of the notable quotes from 'Mein Kampf' on Jews.

     
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  18. mobius

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    It's just your domesticated animals, fitted with blinders. They don't come off.
     
  19. Albatross

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    you must realize though that this is almost never about who's right. as aeoli put it in his blog it goes from top to bottom

    Persuasion Stack

    Identity (best)

    Analogy (okay, not great)

    Reason (useless)

    Definition (capitulation)

    an important aspect of everything goes on is the classic "know them by their fruits" type of logic. most people are just generalizing their perspectives anyway so if you waste your time picking particular arguements on the internet it can only really make YOU better. and maybe that's where focus is meant to be--rather than in the choice of defeating your opponent you can somehow make it apperent by example why your beliefs are the best system in place. like yeah, there are a lot of people who believe that we in some way live in "the matrix" (results may vary) but is thsi expressing itself in any obvious way to the mainstream side? we're kindof too logic-dependent inthat we are perhaps capable of always "winning" an arguement but then there is the prospect of being the king of your own personal empire of 1. then we enter this realm where things are more personal-narrative-driven than aan actual descent into what is goijng to make things happen in reality.

    this subject can gain more complexities the more one analyses it. you want to go somewhere, but society offers you no institutions of which you can really land intellectual bank in. but again, upon realizing that most people are inherently corrupt anyway, why even bother? there is complling desire to move forward just on the basis of what is good and natural to you, but other people are merely instruments to money so you can't find any actual justification for your action being that it is all self-afflicted.

    there is a shining light in the dark that i do see, however, and it comes from pop-culture. the hivemind has its own OS, so to speak. you have to be able to look earnestly at what is obviously anti-intellectualism because you can't change things from the perspective of an individual. these people who regularly read such nonsense are very group-minded and so follows that their thinking has to be more of a receiving than a giving perspective. but these people are not disingenuius. they are just lost and drowning in a wave of what is offered as the immediate solution to their own existential worries. what is it, fore example, that MAKES these mediums so much moree digestible? it's PC culture, obviously. but then, it is not just PC culture but ACTUALLY the very biological interface that is actively needing PC culture as a distraction from reality.

    through social networking, we already see the inevitable taking place. people begun talking about the alt-right for how evil it is. i saw an article on cracked that said all kinds of ostensible things that i'm sure you guys would disambiguate in a quick second. but all press is good press, right? i'd say so. the natural inclination of the hivemind is, despite appearances, inclined toward finding a consensus reality of every topic that exists and plays any significant role in the world of all the influences that exist. sure, there may be bias. but still, world-wide boredom has a way of reinventing the wheel, so to speak. this doesn't seem to be happening now but it is certainly a persistent force.

    i think then the oost important thing to do in these developments of culture is to kill the narrative of certain ideas of arts as being "independent." i mean, if you look at the music industry it seems to be an absurdity that you need someone to publish you now that we have digital downloads. like, what is really goinjg on is warfare of monopolies over our failure to move into new musical territory. really, anyone should be able to put themselves on a platform for all to see. but more importantly, you have to destroy the aspect of thinking that we have to rise up and defeat culture whereby there is the certainty of continual adaption that should by its own narrative unite all mankind.

    you know i';ve always said the band Ween is the best band and i say this for a few reasons. firstoff, if you have any awareness whatsoever, you realize that conceptually wWeen is actually attempting to hijack the hiveminds for what lies underneath it--rampant stupidity/ignorance and attachment to false moral principals that detach us from our individuality. Ween understands that reality is a concept that is sold to us and purveys this musically without even disrupting your deserved experience of listening to exceptionally talented musicians do their work (and as you all know, there is the meme of what a man's place in society is/ought to be being put onto a genuine pedestal rather than the infinite ways man is brought down to a lower stature and made to be a demon amongst his own zeitgeist). Ween was a part of the very cultural sect that it was attacking! in this way, the package is all there to disrupt or fortify as a good ideology can and should do. but what do we really have? we have social media, in a way. mark zurkerberg's story is ofc a successful one with little startup. but that story just doesn't fly the way that we are programmed to disambiguate purely rational logic with so many words and rhetoric.

    so what i think is we should be able to push past the apparent truth that we are stuck as uunderdogs and instead recognize that we are literally in a worlod that doesn't want us. and trust me i can vouch for just how true that is...
     
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  20. mobius

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    That's evident. Anybody got a plan? Genetic engineering? NeanderMatch.com?
    Perhaps there is already a plan in progress? I note that the NeanderGirls you guys have posted have always been just my type.
    Maybe the ice age will take care of the problem.
     

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