Flat earth

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  1. Mycroft Jones

    Mycroft Jones The TM/FM Station Baron

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  2. Brilliand

    Brilliand Active Member Typed

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    This part is interesting:

    Makes a bit more sense than "Ha ha let's make a bunch of people stupid".
     
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  3. Moonpony

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    Ok, this is pathetic. It's the same old "curved water" at lake Ponchartrain. Seems to be the only evidence of curved oceans ever. There are apparently no other examples!
     
  4. Moonpony

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    It's sad that otherwise smart people are able to rationalise away inconsistencies and turn people away from the flat truth. This site is just a rehash of many already debunked arguments and appeals to authority, which is the standard fall back of all heliocentrists.
     
  5. Lorien

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    I think this is the sort of nonsense verbiage, when a simple answer would suffice, that Pope had in mind when he wrote that

    Words are like leaves, and where they most abound,
    Much fruit of sense beneath is rarely found.
     
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  6. Moonpony

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    Yeah, and the earth is a spinning ball hurtling through space. The air "moves with the earth" and "gravity" keeps you stuck upside down in Australia. It also keeps air stuck to the ball earth separate from the "vacuum of space".

    Please explain how space is a vacuum so rarified that NASA can't even replicate in their strongest testing facilities, but you can use construction vacuum lifting equipment to lift multiple tonnes??

    If a simple, vehicle portable vacuum pump can lift 25 tonne of steel and concrete, how exactly are you not being crushed into raspberry jam by the equivalent or greater force of "gravity"?

    How is it possible that the entire solar system is perfectly in the same alignment it has been for centuries, whilst all travelling through space at 670,000,000 mph?

    How is it possible that Polaris is exactly aligned with earth, significantly situated directly above the North Pole, and yet is a quadrillion miles away and perfectly in alignment with our motion?

    What kind of deranged lunatic swallows this unquestioningly, but then has a mental shutdown and is unable to even entertain, even for a moment, a more serious, less fantastical proposition that the cosmos is enclosed, limited, and full of occult forces that make giant balls of rock spin around each other?
     
  7. Moonpony

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    and not*
     
  8. Vejiortan

    Vejiortan Geheimrat Baron

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    Do you think that insulting people makes them a) more likely to rethink their position, or b) less likely to rethink their position ?
     
  9. Brilliand

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    I think this is individual variation - by using insults, you'll convince different people.
     
  10. Ulixes Orobar

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    (How many specific details do you need?)

    1.) Space is not a perfect vacuum. Even the space between galaxies is not a perfect vacuum. Still, recreating such a vacuum on Earth, at sea level, requires a lot of energy.

    2.) We can measure the forces involved, so we can determine empirically how much pressure it takes to crush a human body. (You are reasoning by analogy here, and I doubt that the scenarios are comparable.)

    3.) The Sun's gravity prevents the objects in the solar system from leaving it. The momentum of those objects prevents them from falling towards the Sun. The whole solar system orbits the galactic core as well. When the solar system passes closely by other star systems, the gravity of those star systems perturbs the orbits of objects in the solar system; this tends to increase collisions between them. So, we can predict the motions of the planets on timescales of thousands of years, but, when viewed over multi-million-year timescales, the system is chaotic.

    4.) Polaris is not perfectly aligned with the northern celestial pole. The fact that it is very far away means that it will appear to move less as the Earth orbits the Sun, not more. The distance between the Earth and the Sun is only 1 AU; Polaris is between 20,430,000 AU and 27,380,000 AU away. (When you are driving down the road, the trees closer to the road appear to move by more quickly, while the more distant trees appear to move by more slowly. That's my attempt to reason by analogy.)

    5.) This kind of deranged lunatic! *points at face* Is the electromagnetic interaction also an occult force?
     
  11. Moonpony

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    Gravity, prevents air diffusing into a vacuum at the boundary to space, can't prevent air diffusing into a vacuum at ground level.
     
  12. Ulixes Orobar

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    The net forces involved aren't the same in those two scenarios. The rest of the atmosphere would "push" gas molecules up into an empty container at sea level.

    What would push them up into space? The molecules can move in that direction but the force of gravity causes them to accelerate downward as well, which makes their escape less likely. At ground level, they're colliding with other gas molecules much more frequently; hence, there's enough pressure from below to support the molecules which move up into the empty container against the downward gravitational force.
     
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    I'd also note that air *does* diffuse into the vacuum at the "boundary" to space. There's simply less and less air the higher up you go.
     
  14. CaelumCaeruleumEst

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    Wow i leave for a few months and i missed this wonderful thread about the degeneracy of the average person's scientific understanding about the most basic things.

    I would like to know where this retarded modern flat Earth shit came from tbh. Even ancient peoples knew the Earth was spherical. How has our species regressed to this point?

    Also that whole bullshit about the atmosphere being unable to "spin" with the planet completely ignores everything about actual fluid dynamics, planetary accretion and the formation process of an atmosphere on a planetary body.

    And "a rotating sphere has no center of mass"? Holy shit that has to be a joke right?

    Until recently i was pretty sure that flat Earth was a joke, trolling and only the profoundly mentally ill might take it seriously. But holy shit people actually believe it?
     
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    It's the Internet -- I'm sorry, "alternative media" -- "redpilling" people on "the truth".
     
  16. Brilliand

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    Oh, I'm sure this is disinformation, deliberately spread by someone who knew better but hoped to make other people stupid.
     
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    And "a rotating sphere has no center of mass"?
    Of course not, it's hollow, except for the dinosaurs.
     
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    Flat earth like Q or Alex Jonestein are PSYOP created for different purposes, keeping the normies out of the "fringes" by asociating them with the nonsense flat earthers spout, data mining, gatekeeping, etc.
     
  19. Mycroft Jones

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    Wasn't sure if that thread was on this forum. A flat earth friend may be finally ready to come around and reject it. Once it gets its hooks into people, it is strong. Rob Skiba is kind of obvious in his emotional manipulation. For some reason he is one of the more popular flat earth promoters among the religious set.
     
  20. BiceBiceBice

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    With all this bibble prophecy "coming true", itz time to spill the real human beans, the whole enchilada.

    you need to know this before you can understand.

    Why is the Earth, reality, so strange these days? Remember how AI said Internet is communism for 3 year olds, because the lowest common denominator. We are 8 billion people on this planet, projection project another 4 billion in a few years, that means more people obviously, but what does that mean? I'll tell you.

    Flat Earth + 12billion = More Weight on Earth. Yes, in a sea of conscious space, we are sinking. This is why the elite talk about population reduction, and want to provoke the second coming of christ to pass judgement purging earth by overpopulation it on purpose with ooga boogas (remember pack your rice?!?), so the weight gets taken off and we sail into the highest heavens of consciousness.

    This will not happen because it is artifical growth which is why humanity is retarded right now. You can't provoke the hand off god, jesus will not come, and earth will keep on sinking down with 20 billion people until humanity is 1 month old, then when we are 30 billion the planet is so heavy we will fall to the bottom, and the crash will destroy the planet (remember we are falling and fast).

    This is why we need to colonize space and elon musk is producing space cars.

    TLDR if you believe wahmen, you will die on this planet along with NIGGERS and JEWS
     

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