Flat earth

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  1. Brilliand

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    Maybe there's something else in the atmosphere. Fire? Earth? Air?
     
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    I have to take back all I said about atmospheric lensing. After some deep thought I came up with a new theory with an immensely greater explanatory power, and is more parsimonious too.

    It has to do with magnetism, just like gravity. No need to assume there's water in the air. That's rather a silly idea anyway. When water's in the air it will fall down. It's called rain. Look it up. Anyway, it's the same force doing the Sun as is doing why we stick to the ground. Fucking magnets man, what don't they do?

    Hopefully I get time to craft diagrams for the proof soon.
     
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  4. Lorien

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    Fuck it. Making diagrams is way too big a chore. Time to drop this dumb charade.

    *Bow*

    You people keep clicking the funny button, so apparently the funnies are reproducible. I'm not very likely to reproduce often though. To my mind all I'm doing is displaying wit while being an annoying bitch. And for the most part the wit is mediocre; Not good enough to be funny on its own, hence the bitch act.

    That's roughly my opinion about other "funny" people too.
     
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    Funny again because this made me lol. Look, all of humor is complaining about something. That's the point: comedy reframes absurdity through a model that simplifies it. The good feeling of humor comes from our brains relaxing and saying "that makes sense".

    Dilbert is probably the best example of how this works. All he does is describe human interactions very concisely, through archetypal characters with simplified motivations. So next time I don't wonder "why does this guy take so long to answer his e-mails?" I just think "Wally is lazy and does a bad job on purpose so people won't ask him for things".

    Imagine a world where everybody talked like Dilbert characters, very forthright and pointed, instead of masking their motivations and actions behind plausible deniability, rationalizations, and obfuscations. Humans in that world would still be flawed but would at least make sense!
     
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  6. Kensuimo

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    I heard they were making a TV show with that premise. I think the working title is "Anime".
     
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    Yeah, but they would not be funny. Dilbert is usually unfunny.
     
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  8. mobius

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    Someone must have noticed the edge?
     
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    Doh! I should'a figured that one out.
     
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    I think the typical retort is that it's blocked by ice. Picturing the earth as a disc, the North pole is thought to lie at the center, whereas the south pole forms a large ring around the circumference. One would think that large differences in traversal time would discredit this- but given that access to the poles is not exactly trivial, I suppose conspiracy has a degree of plausibility.

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    That's why I LARP as a normie or as a crazy person, depending upon the circumstances. Sorry, but I don't want people to hate me. People still manage to pick up on my weirdness, though. It's hard to hide it during long conversations.

    So, I try not to reveal my power level. :D
     
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  12. mobius

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    LOL Someone would have stepped off by now.
     
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    Too late for me, but understanding is liberating.
     
  14. Moonpony

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    hearsay about flight times is not evidence. Maps can be fudged. Travel times can be fudged.

    Whenever the curve isn't there, there's always a convenient excuse.. the curve is always "not in that bit.."
     
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  15. Lorien

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    @Moonpony Does there exist measurements of the non-curvature of the earth which do not rely on light travelling through air?
     
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    All railways, bridges and so on are built without calculating for the alleged curvature of the earth. The Lake ponchartrain bridge is missing several hundred feet of curvature, and the London to Birmingham railway is perfectly flat and level and with its central station not elevated by the many miles it would need to be to match the alleged curvature of the earth. There are different earths curvature calculators some relying on Pythagorean theorem and others calculating more specifically the height of the arc between point to point, but all in all cases the curvature of the earth has never been accounted for. The globe is an illusion and the the curvature is an article of faith, it is an atheistic superstition created in order to rationalise the appearances of things that are more definitely and consistently explained by FE model.
     
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    Refraction due to atmosphere is of course variable, as refraction happens due to a change in density of the material. It is thus affected by local weather. The refraction of light at ground level, if the temperature is consistent along that area, should be negligible. However when flat earthers consistently make the same "impossible" observations and measurements, the answer is always the same, it is "refraction" and what is visible a "mirage", despite their consistency. Ball earthers are so incredibly lazy they will fail to look up what an actual superior mirage looks like, instead pretending to themselves that they are "open minded" for trying to trip up a flat earther with ridiculous assertions about how the seen world is an illusion and the real spherical world can only be known through pseudo-scientific rationalisations.
     
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    The station wouldn't be elevated - the rail would be curved. As for whether that rail is curved - that rail is twisty. It's curved to match the local geography, never mind the curvature of the Earth itself.
     
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    See, this is the issue with closemindedness: we lock ourselves into a bipolar paradigm and try to duke it out within that constricting framework, losing the imagination to conjure models of the true, tertiary reality.

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    First they laugh at you...
     

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