Flat earth

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  1. Brilliand

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    To know just what horizon movement your model predicts, you need to know the visual arc of your camera. Here are some equations to predict where the horizon should be in your field of view (90° is directly horizontal):

    (Flat earth disc): arctan((radius of the earth)/(height of camera))
    (Spherical earth): arcsin((radius of the earth)/(radius of the earth+height of camera))

    Note that the radius of earth is 3.14 times greater in the flat earth model than in the round earth model, because it traces along the surface rather than going "inside".

    To see the amount of change in horizon (in degrees) you can expect at different heights (in miles), you can plug this into Google:
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    graph arctan((3959*pi)/x)*180/pi and arcsin(1/(1+x/3959))*180/pi
    Looking at it myself... it turns out that at any height within the atmosphere (<10 miles), the change in the horizon for the flat-earth model is nigh-undetectable (<1/20 of a degree), while for the round earth model the horizon should sink by a full degree within the first mile. The flat earth may not be an infinite plane, but at 12,000 miles when we can only get a few miles up (with our balloons), it may as well be... unless we go far enough south to be near the edge.
     
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  2. Lorien

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    You make a valid point, but consider that if the horizon falls away faster than I want it to, it just proves that the radius of the flat earth disc is smaller than we previously thought.

    You people really need to get your head out of your asses and realize that spheres don't exist.

    Take bowling balls for instance. Look at this bowling ball. Look at it!

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    Flat! Put a ruler up to your screen and test it for yourself. I dare you. As a pancake!

    If not even bowling balls are spherical, how could the earth be? There's no such thing as a sphere.

    They even admit that spheres are "the set of points at a certain distance from a common center". It's just a mathematical fiction!

    Now I know you brainwashed zombies will come at me saying "I bowl on a regular basis, the balls feel pretty round to me." That's what the Illuminati want you to think.

    Now go back to sleep, sheep.
     
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  3. Lorien

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    No. Look. You globeheads think you're so damned smart just because a globular head is capable of holding a brain. But you only fool yourself with thinking.

    Flat heads know that seeing is believing.

    Everything I see is real. It follows from logic that Everything I don't see is not real. Bet they didn't teach you logic in mason school, globe-tard.

    Gravity can't be real because I don't see it. So it has to be magnets that do it. Everyone can see magnets.
     
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    Lorien, have you secretly been absolutely fucking hilarious these last five years and I just didn't notice? That was incredible.
     
  5. Brilliand

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    That works when fitting just one point, but if we check at many points, it's possible to prove the exact shape of the earth (or at least the convex hull of the earth - this method won't detect holes).

    Also: the flat-earth equation when fit to match the round-earth equation at a height of 10 miles gives a radius for the earth of 142 miles (less if fit at lower heights). This number is obviously far too small for the size of the actual earth.
     
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  6. Moonpony

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    Great maths and all, but... the model shows there should be more curvature than is visible.
     
  7. Lorien

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    Bla bla bla fancy language. Your mom is a convex hull.

    You think light move in straight lines in your precious "geometry" models? I call your attention to the fact that the sun is 20 degrees above the horizon in the middle of the night.

    So much for your geometry, sheep. If the horizon falls away at an unexpected rate, that's clearly because of the atmospheric zoom lens.

    But have you ever seen curving water? I can't believe I have to come back to this over and over.

    The very fact that we can see a few miles extra beyond the horizon proves the earth can be nothing but flat. Even though It's just a few miles and I can't see Beijing or whatever.

    How brainwashed do you have to be to think that light curves! have you ever seen a laser beam running in circles?

    No! Light moves in exactly straight lines, break through your conditioning!
     
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  8. Boneflour

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    Looks like Lorien is...

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    Straight Outta Patience.
     
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  9. Moonpony

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    Yeah, it's kind of boring tbh.
     
  10. Ulixes Orobar

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    Give this thread a proper burial before it mutates into a terrifying and monstrous abomination unto science.
     
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  11. Moonpony

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    "An illustration of how I believe our eyes display the horizon and sunrise/sunset based on the principles of Angular Resolution and Perspective."

    "This video is so ridiculous good. This researcher, Curious Life, is I think is the most under-subscribed truth channels there is. Lots of stuff that is new to me, and not in the videos from other researchers. Not only does this guy have some of the best concepts, but he can present it well, and has good video production values, but mainly, he can precisely say what he is trying to say."

    This video finally cracked the "Boats disappearing base first" and sunrise/sunset thing for me completely. It's illuminating. Give it a watch and see if you can think about a sunset as 'going behind the curve of earth' next time you see a sunrise or sunset.
     
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  12. Ulixes Orobar

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    I watched the video, and I have some questions. Why doesn't the Sun's apparent size change throughout the day? Why doesn't it (appear to) grow from sunrise until noon and (appear to) shrink from noon until sunset? If anything, it looks bigger when it nears the horizon, not smaller.
     
  13. Moonpony

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    I saw this little clip which goes a way to showing that, I've yet to dig deep on time lapse footage for that specific thing though.
     
  14. Moonpony

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    Oh, it starts at 3:39
     
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    I've watched the sun set before. This video showing the sun from two awkward perspectives and saying the one that looks normal is the illusion... it's just stupid at this point.
     
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    OF COURSE
     
  17. Lorien

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    Atmospheric Zoom Lens, ball-brains! How many times must it be repeated in this thread before it sticks? Trick question! Nothing can sticks to a spinning ball brain.

    The atmosphere acts like a zoom lens. The sun gets smaller when it moves away, but it's coincidentally zoomed in by the atmosphere at the exact same rate. It's an illusion, like a mirage, except it's real.

    God, people who believe in mirages are dumb.

    You smug globalists like to mock us and accuse us of making up ad hoc nonsense. But you yourselves are just blindly listening to the "scientists" and aren't even willing to make stuff up for yourself. Well nothing's ad hoc about the zoom lens. We have laboratory experiments to show the atmosphere is acting like a lens. It's acting exactly like there's a high tech, plastic fresnel lens in the sky.

    The most important bit starts at 10:10, if 13 minutes of real science, testable repeatable science, is too much for you to handle.



    I wouldn't call any one stupid if I were you, when you yourself are so clearly deficient. Awkward!

    The sun on the left is being zoomed by the moisture in the atmosphere. The one on the right is showing the undistorted truth, because it's obscured behind the clouds. It's obvious, really, once you decide to let go of the brainwashing.

    I don't know all the details, I'm only just learning myself, but clearly the light passing through the cloud somehow counteracts the zooming. Normally moisture zooms the sun, but maybe the moisture of the could is so extreme that the zooming is reversed and the sun shrinks.
     
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  18. Moonpony

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    OF COURSE!!!
     
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  19. Ulixes Orobar

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    You said what I was going to say in a funny way. OK?


    By the way, there can't be water in the atmosphere, and I can prove it!
    P1.) Water stops fires from burning.
    P2.) If the air contained water, I wouldn't be able to start fires for fun.
    P3.) I can and do start fires for fun.
    C.) Therefore, the air does not contain water.
     
  20. Lorien

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    You guys keep laughing at me! Well, the joke's on you; The court jester is the only one telling the truth.

    Oh come on. There's only an inch of water in the atmosphere. That's not enough to stop most fires.

    Though it is enough to quench the small ones... it's a mystery.

    Anyway, we already know there's water in the atmospere. How else would it lens the light?
     

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