Civilization Question

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  1. glosoli

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    Firstly, thanks for the welcome back, but I'm not sticking around.

    I honestly didn't read all of your reply to me, as it veered off the topic onto other hypothetical stuff, rather than addressing the point on which I disagreed (i.e. apparent better gut health/longevity is worth having despite all of the costs/downsides I mentioned), and maybe you didn't notice that I ignored the OP question, I just expressed my preference for a small tribe. Maybe one day I'l buy a remote island somewhere, despite the current shit-show, and invite some Thal brothers and sisters to join me. Would be so nice.

    Also, an FYI, real Christians are given their life as they die, the brief visit to this planet is painful for us, we mostly hate it here, and we are taken somewhere much much better as our mortal life expires.
     
  2. Brilliand

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    This is also within our influence, or at least within the influence of Europeans in general. Those baby booms are happening because we're providing support to those countries, AND we're probably capable of fending them off militarily (even with inferior numbers) if we just stop providing them with military support.

    So, who is it who's actively providing this support and thereby preventing the low-birthrate alternative from being viable? Obviously it isn't actually us - although the people doing it might be technically "europeans".
     
  3. Boneflour

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    I am 100% okay with ending the massive subsidies fueling high birthrate in other countries, and with not giving military support to people that hate us.

    There are plenty of improvements to be had over our current system for sure.
     
  4. Thal Survivor

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    Brilliand :

    Sorry I did not argue myself, and I did not introduce myself in the other session of the forum (should I?).

    I think that everything that comes after the hunter-gatherer is a degeneration, an aberration and madness, our health and vitality should be a priority, and one can not improve through unnatural means, it can only degenerate, it can not reach the truth , only to deviate from it.

    Boneflour :

    Hunting buffalo will be of great benefit, more than christianity. ( no disrespect, of course )

    "I would agree that small, close-knit tribes would be pretty great. Just so long as you weren't one of the tribes to get killed off entirely in a territory dispute." - if you try to avoid it, it's worse.

    gut parasites: many people heal through a raw carnivorous diet, excessive fear of bacteria, fungi or parasites is wrong for sure, you should strengthen yourself instead, some tribes even consume rotten flesh with no ill effects.

    Vejiortan :

    it should fail, but only when we are ready. I agree with Vejiortan.

    Glosoli :

    "apparent better gut health / longevity is worth having despite all of the costs", Give me a stone hut or a cave with my tribe. I agree.


    And aspies benefit from this, because from what I've seen and from experience, they are greatly affected (the younger, more likely to fit the example below)

    They fall into a deep hole of food intolerances that pass unknown ( gluten, grains, dairy casein), lose health of the intestinal flora, degenerate diet and sedentary lifestyle, has many allergies, with severe addictions (like computer games), animes, etc. take many "medicine" pills (such as anti-depressants), have mental and physical weakness, some get so sick and chronically fatigued that they can not work if they do not start a nutritional gut healing journey, far from being able to have children, raise a family, and pass genetics on. I think people here can relate to this kind of thing at some point in life.
     
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  5. Brilliand

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    I agree that modern civilization is a horrific aberration; however, I would argue that it could have been done well. A healthy diet and relationship with nature is something that civilization could have been built around. And, there are some genuinely positive things drifting around in the mess that is modern civilization - for example, we can make good-quality steel; what's not to like?

    If we start over at "hunter-gatherer", we will create a civilization again. That is inevitable, from our nature as learners and builders. I would hope, though, that that new civilization bears little resemblance to our current civilization.
     
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  6. Thalmoses

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    Civilization has figured out how to kill hunter gatherers, so paleo nostalgists must up their military game.

    That is what I'm working on, starting with the individual mind.
     
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  7. BiceBiceBice

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    The self-improvement quest is on, they banned cbd in swe and a lazy search revealed they are totally legal in denmark and france etc, being off the sugar for so long i am conditioned and simple too lazy to pick up a bad habit again, in excess. The white substances, sugar, satans dandruff, almost brought down the white man so I can only imagine what horrors soylent contains.

    The good news are that the sapes are so weak these that 300 men could tear up any sape army just like those killer bees just tear through any pussy-bee colony, but then you have those other bees that encircle the big bees and raise their body temperature and kill them basically through kindness, a big warm embrace. The sape can't kill you but the Ways of the sape can.

    This is why the way of the Nobilid is superior. I should write a book with 12 000 (bc) rules for life, each entry so maximized reading just one could changer your life forever and reading three or more will make you grow quads so thick, even running circles around those blue nightligts shilled by Tex when you go take a tinkle at night.

    If you already won the only thing to do is lose unless you want to keep winning. Basically do everything yourself, even open heartsurgery on yourself after you played enough hours in Heart Surgery Simulator 2019. Sabotage degeneracy decline won't run up on you, then again in America it might seeing as you brought the worst of the worst ooga boogas to your lands, the rest of the white world don't have this problem thus no obstacle to a repetitive winning military-drill style routine.

    Do your prayers first then do your memes. Thats like twice the winning just there.

    Should Civilization Fall? What do you all think?
    A more interesting question is when does the "Roman"-ish system of running thing gets replaced by something better, if ever. Within it, in our current year time, even the ebb and flow of eugenics/dysgenics seem to survive, in population numbers it performs better than the old Pyramid order of things. Also when sapes have maximized creature comforts they instantly revert back to pedophiles and racemixing godless degenerates. That part should fall, i don't find such conduct very civilized and I am sure a "neutral" observer like an AI would agree, just like those said AI's bash communism all the time.
     
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  8. muh-par

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    >Should civilization fall?

    Depends on the reason for the decline. I'm assuming this is a planned descent from at least one context and overlapping negative influences through them result in a net negative and a complete civilizational decline of your largest classifiable civilizational ingroup. Very few problems would justify such a descent because most serious problems can be resolved by a small, completely isolated "pure" (aka an ideal counter to the opposing ideology) subgroup(s) (that may be involved in said decline) that take over as the other side diminishes. Then ideally, civilization may retard, but it does not fall and problems are resolved.

    Complete annihilation would be horrifying and unwanted. If potentially opposed groups ever reach nuclear family size post-civilization, everything would depend on the last surviving pair (if one) that can physically mimic now-advanced civilizational feats like easy food, water and housing to rebuild some modicum of larger group advanced civilization a few centuries in the future. Excessive inbreeding might lead to further problems, but that is the best-case scenario.
     
  9. Brilliand

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    Huh?
     
  10. muh-par

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    I'm assuming that there are one or more structured organizations working towards civilizational decline. Hence they all have negative and positive effects upon society and result in a net negative effect. When many of them interact together that negative effect is compounded. This would lead to civilizational decline over a period of time (compounded effect notwithstanding in case of a single entity). All these groups belong to the same civilizational group, which means the entire group has common commerce and/or trade opportunities. So this would exclude, say, a primitive tribe in africa from a (relative to said tribe) remote country in decline, which would be the "ingroup". The ingroup is always defined from the pov of the group itself, because everything else is the outgroup.
     
  11. Brilliand

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    You started by equating "civilizational collapse" with "negative", however. You also appear to be equating "people who the civilization wants to count amount its members" with "people who benefit from the civilization enduring". I would question both of those assumptions.

    ...and I think you are hiding a great many similar mistakes behind your odd jargon and convoluted definitions; not just from others, but also from yourself.
     
  12. muh-par

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    That hasn't changed. I don't think it is possible to have a completely negative impact on the ingroup, only a net negative.

    I have not expressed that. It's not related to intent. Criminals and evil people of the ingroup are still part of the economy unless they're dead or exiled. Commerce and Trade are the glue that holds everyone in the ingroup together regardless of crimes or misdeeds.
     
  13. Titus

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    Losing 4 kids and your wife is natural selection, our current civilization is not compatible with survival of the fittest in many ways and thus a lot of drag is born everyday, one day nature will catch up with us and we will get the collapse so much anticipated. When you are "defective" and carry it in your genes, you become a slave to the system that keeps you alive, and thus the modern cancer of SJW, welfare moms, mass third world low value immigration, etc.
    Despite the genomic interactions are harder to crack than we anticipated, we should be able in a near future to work the ways of nature in a faster and more "humane" ways, nevertheless i don't see why people with access to this technology may want to share it looking at the current state of things. Many goverments today don't even invest in gifted children programs and we already know that high IQ individuals are the biggeset creators of wealth in any country, much less they are going to invest in genetic screening and the like. Of course the jews do get national genetic screening mostly paid by goyim taxpayers in the US and Europe and the sort of "eugenic" breeding they have been doing for the last couple thousand years, but they are the chosen people, you know.

    Raising big families (and like minded communities) while abstaining from all the vices and poisons of the current year is having more than half the battle won.
     
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    This civilization already is falling. Compare now to the social factors at play leading up to and during the fall of Rome. Whether or not it should is irrelevant. Civilization in general is another thing, and I think its concept and positive implementation can't be eradicated without severe negative consequences on the survival and evolutionary trajectory of humanity as a whole. Sure, things are decaying rapidly right now, but that seems to be a result of forces actively gunning for that decay rather than civilization itself. It's just a concept, ultimately, and anything can be done with it. Whether for better or worse depends on the people behind the curtain.
     
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  15. Thal Survivor

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    Well said, but i think that the more you are exposed to satanic stuff ( grains, fire, cooking, sugar, technology, this kind of thing ), the more you will find that moving away from nature is a great move or even a choice.

    :(, life goes on, :cool:

    Yeah.
     
  16. BiceBiceBice

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    Society = female = dead
    Civilization = white male = alive.

    Take the Black&White Nobilid Pill, accept that western society aka BELIEVE WAHMEN NAGGERS AND JEWS is dead and thank God - "black pill", be glad that civilization is still alive (otherwise how could we communicate?!?) - white pill.

    In-between these two worlds you have the grey globohomogayplexsapegroidmischmashshitlibsjwwhiteoidoogaboogamenschNPCgoys, not even Jesus had anything good to say about these lukewarm faggots, so if you are a thard you need to stop thinking about this right now and look at the positives instead.

    Only a flood or meteor or earthquake or volcano could kill civilization unironically.
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  17. Thal Survivor

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    I was kind of joking too, but I really hold the view that civilization is a degeneration and nothing really pays off, but I'm not going to insanely repeat this statement and obsessively think about it like a retard, I accept reality.

    About the "globohomogayplexsapegroidmischmashshitlibsjwwhiteoidoogaboogamenschNPCgoys", I think many "thals", behave like "shitlibssjwwhiteNPClowtestosteronegoy", I do not think that matching sapes ( = homo sapiens !? ) with this kind of behavior portrays reality, i'm sure a lot of them have thal influence, but they are still "lukewarm faggots" anyway.
     
  18. BiceBiceBice

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    Archaeological Criteria of Civilization | https://www.socionauki.ru/journal/articles/129912/ , video games and living in space should be the start and finish of our civilizational spurt, all other things are just convenience, also you don't need a cure for a cancer if people are healthy and live healthy livestyles, video games are at best learning tools and virtual prisons for people detrimental to the system of society/civilization, the space race will pay off in more minerals, which, we don't need if the elite, ironically, gets 500 million people maximum on this planet.

    There is a feel here that the majority-minority-majority crowd wants as little as possible to exist, but they are not ready to kill themselves rather they all want to starve to death together after one final bunga bunga party, thusly also having an excuse "yeah well who knew gangbanging toddlers at daycare wasn't Really stunning&brave and now God is mad time to die". They are not sincere about anything, they are not even animals. They are nothing.

    40% of Worker Ants Are Actually Lazy Slackers, But They Have Their Reasons | https://www.sciencealert.com/many-worker-ants-are-actually-lazy-slackers-but-there-s-a-good-reason-for-that the majority of any group are the meat&bulk, meatheads and bulkheads. As Stalin said;
    A Single Death is a Tragedy; a Million Deaths is a Statistic

    Systems are usually self-serving, beneficial things comes from military technology or some random retard experimenting in his kitchen or garage. Individuals will produce good quality goods, but a system never will, every trinket we have right now is a discarded "obsolete" tech from decades into the future, the only way to fight the future is to become a "luddite", after all, they put a man on the moon. (((transhumanism)))) = trannyhumanism. I think a lot of things have already been perfected in the entertainment and learning department. How and why improvament an acoustic guitar?
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    Yes, this is thardism. They are the destroyers of everything, they will champion the cause of anything and anyone, effectively "carrying" (never works or done poorly until they get bored and champion another cause whilst racking up unfinished business) others water taking on the messiah-complex, road to hell is paved with good intentions they say, but this is giving people bread without working. It ends in circle of failure, a good example is the white man feeding ooga boogas rice in africa, now they are soon 4 billion relying on white rice. A micro to macro, BELIEVE WHAMEN = Planet Nigger. This is the way of the thard. Report all forms of thardism to the local police.


    Only a violent hierarchy is innate to "people", neither civilization nor society is inherent to even white people, Anglosphere - Hitlers germany - Stalins russia - Swedish volkheim was all due to social engineering, by engineers, meaning 150IQ average tasks delegated down to the low IQ 115 average officers at the bottom. If you don't believe me, look at the western world today where people have been given their freedumbs without "official accountability" (the wages are of course death rape murder of an entire race - if reporterted at all, then cheered on by the media).

    We live in a global civilization, they want to implement a global society. If you don't like it the way it is right now, you will not like part two. Itz that simple, go into the woods to the treestumps, or fight 8billion people dead because they will never change their ways. This is the blueprint and it will not change.


     
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  19. Thal Survivor

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    Yea, truth. It's a shame. :D



    i also think that neither civilization nor society is inherent to even white people, but would civilization exist without Melonhead?

    yea, I will not like it at all. :cool:

    What is the difference between Nobilid and Thal? Nobilid is some kind of melonhead?

    Is there a disproportionate amount of meloness among the Jews? o_O
     
  20. Thal Survivor

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    In fact, man can not cure any disease, only create more. What is the sense of space race? only the mentally ill may find this a good thing, as I see it, very sick.



    True, you're good with memes.
     

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