CBS: Catch 'Em All

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  1. Ophiuchus

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    See here for a more thorough, complete overview of the type.

    When I initially read Aeoli's blog post outlining the type, I was actually pretty startled by the resemblance between Tex and Thomas Edison:

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    If nothing else, it shows how far and how quickly we've fallen as a society between Edison's time and now. Back then, the "eccentric self-taught inventor with competitive edge" ur-archetype guy was internationally renowned for his inventions. Today, Tex's audience is limited to a small, obscure corner of the web for him to speak profound, itzy truths to. Meanwhile, Bill Nye the scienmajist guy has the whole system propping him up to fill people's heads with global warming nonsense. Sad!




    (Thread posted in the typed rather than public zone due to the "intermediate" nature of CBS and also pics of Tex. Perhaps when the type is more well-defined it'll be ready for public).
     
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    To kill two birds with one stone--or rather, catch two bears with one post, here's Beethoven and Gregor Mendel.

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    One can see a definite similarity in phrenological features, somatotype and the way each man carries himself and poses to have his picture made (or drawn, in Beethoven's case).

    I believe that while Beethoven and Mendel were both classified as CBS in the comments of Aeoli's initial thread, I believe Aeoli specified that Beethoven was an example of a Cave Bear leaning toward Mousterian, which I believe is an accurate assessment given Beethoven's writeprint (he was more shy and had less solid grasp of nuance and social interaction than, say, Mendel or Tex).
     
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    Similarly to how Beethoven is a good example of a Cave Bear leaning towards Mousterian, John Wayne is an example of a Cave Bear leaning towards Bigeye Melon.

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    He has the consummate showmanship, charisma and orbital profile of the Bigeye, but also had a certain undeniable quality--a sort of "true grit", if you will--that separates him from the Melonhead type and puts him squarely in Cave Bear territory.

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    He looks closer to bigeye melon to me, but I'm not familiar with his work or general affect.
     
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    I'm skeptical that there even is a CBS type. I think that's mainly because I've seen individuals with a variety of anthropometric qualities designated as such. Does anyone have an idea as to what the suite of CBS traits is supposed to be?

    I think Beethoven and Mendel both fall into the Arch-Thal - Cro-Magnoid hybrid category that was a common physical type for Europeans prior to the 20th century. I think Robert the Bruce falls into that category as well, as do many other intellectuals of the past.
     
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    Yeah, the CBS "type" isn't really a solidly defined, clear-cut category, but more of a suite of traits that occurs in people who don't fall neatly into the Amud or Mousterian category but whom we would otherwise consider "Thallish". They're neither Ettore Majorana nor are they Steve Wozniak. CBS's rather equivocal status as a "pseudo-type" is implied by its name: it's a "syndrome" rather than a solid type.

    As for the suite of traits that define them, I'll just quote from Aeoli's blog:

    (^The emboldened sections here are why I had John Wayne typed as CBS, though he clearly displays some bigeye melon traits, such as the ability to capitalize off of his interpersonal aptitude)

    As you say, the "type" itself is a bit squirrely-to-define and probably consequent of Thal mixing with the huge-brained archaic Cro-Magnons. As stated in the OP, the ambiguity regarding CBS is the reason I had originally posted the thread in the typed rather than public zone, as I figured it wasn't quite clear-cut enough to "debut".
     
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    I feel confident that Cave Bear reflects something real.

    The face conveys much more information than the straightforward causal mechanisms we have identified so far can account for.
     
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    Frederick Lanchester, another excellent example.

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